Sheila Harding Lying Again

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#176 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 09 Feb 2018 22:24

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The chimp is getting properly riled - he's started using potty language. Looks like madame has ordered him to attack - obviously she's too busy taking enquiries. :lol:

Oh wait, it's after 10pm, so let's give her half hour to empty her colostomy bag, wring out the old flannel and await her latest fairy tales.

Looks like I'll have to invest in a new poking stick.

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#177 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 09 Feb 2018 22:32

She is getting rattled over nothing.
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#178 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 09 Feb 2018 22:37

I know - that's what makes it even funnier.

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#179 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 12 Feb 2018 22:02

Usual chaos elsewhere. OP had a payment arrangement to pay on the 10th of the month, made payment on that date. OP received a letter today from Jacob's dated the 9th to say the plan had defaulted and are demanding £600.

Sheila says the plan had defaulted and the title of thread is wrong. Brassnecked says Jacob's probably expected cleared payment on the 10th. Sheila advises against contacting the council or making a complaint, instead advising to contact Jacob's welfare department.

Dear oh dear.

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#180 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 13 Feb 2018 01:04

Jacobs threatening imprisonment unless the debt is settled in full and Harding doesn't think that this warrants a complaint to the council? Yeah right, let's just ignore it so Jacobs can use this reprehensible and dishonest threat in the future towards other people who are struggling to pay their council tax.

In another thread, Harding has demonstrated clearly why she should not be let loose near a debtor who is receiving communications from bailiffs. Put simply, Harding is a bluffer and a chancer who knows very little about bailiff law and enforcement in general. This is Harding's latest shocking piece of misinformation:
In the first instance, you need to be making the creditor aware of Item 12 of the Taking Control of Goods: National Standards 2014
As the creditor is a private landlord, the National Standards are not applicable to him/her. This is outlined in the very first paragraph of the standards:
These standards are intended for use by all enforcement agents, public and private, the enforcement agencies that employ them and the major creditors who use their services....
Harding has clearly not read the standards properly and clearly has no hands on experience or working knowledge of this scenario. If she had, she would be aware that the National Standards only apply to MAJOR CREDITORS

As most High Court writs have been obtained by private creditors, it is very rare that the National Standards will be applicable to them. This would be one of the first things Harding should know if she had any experience of dealing with High court writs.

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#181 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 13 Feb 2018 13:56

In legal arguments, I often give then National standards clauses but with a comment about paragraph 1 & 4 making them applicable to major creditors.

Accept it's not binding, but persuasive. It also packs out a legal argument a bit as well especially if it's otherwise a brief one.

This NOT a Sheila endorsement.
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#182 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 14 Feb 2018 16:10

John The Baptist wrote:
02 Feb 2018 13:41
This should be good:
Anyway, I have asked BA to look in, she is expert in these matters.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

She's been looking in constantly for the past 24 hours chimp - That is all she does all day and every day. BA will just waffle on about trivialities. When she's finished, the OP will be no further forward from post #1. If you genuinely want the OP to be helped, send him/her over here.
I told you that this one should be good.

2 weeks later and they're still going around in circles, even after being given an almighty clue as to what to do and ho to proceed.

The chimp is getting overly excited at the prospect of turning it into another one of his obsessive "paying the creditor directly" epics. Calm down chimp - I'd hate to see you back in hospital so soon after your last spell.

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#183 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 14 Feb 2018 16:36

Surprised she's got the time - she's currently getting very giddy about some OOTs that she says Jason has written for clients now approaching her. Of course, no evidence of any such forms, nor anyone signing up to complain about anything. Strange that ain't it?

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#184 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 14 Feb 2018 16:45

I don't charge for OOT. Sheila Harding does.

I make enough money finding clients and doing paralegal work for solicitors. It's a shame Peter Fel-ton works for Newlyn. I have plenty of work on the table that would keep him busy for a good long time.

As for Sheila, Let's see the TE9.
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#185 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 14 Feb 2018 17:01

Meanwhile over on the CAG board.
Guys is there anything i can do? I seem to be running out of options....
Sheila is as useful as a wet paper bag.
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#186 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 14 Feb 2018 19:32

Mr Shifter's cerebral input to that thread:
If it is not to rude, can i ask how old you are?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Could he be any more snide?

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#187 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 14 Feb 2018 21:16

Pote you flowery moron, there is a particular significance regarding defaulted fines, when the defendant is under the age of 18, dandy head.
I've sanitised his potty mouth for the benefit of any ladies present.

So let's hear from the learned chimp.

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#188 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 14 Feb 2018 22:00

Peter Bardsley is on top form today.
If you cannot pay a fine the options are for the bailiff to apply to the court for further action to be taken, this would be facilitated by a means test.
Wrong. The CPR's don't provide for bailiffs to apply for further action let alone a means test.

If Peter bothered to read his original post, he said:

  • After contacting either collectica and marston (by sending my budget and calling them),a payment plan was refused.






I would contact the CAB, they have specialist advisers in criminal matters.
Wrong. The CAG does not give legal advice. They give a list of solicitors.



Also in his original post he said:

  • One more thing is that property i live in is not mine,


There is your answer. Both Sheila and Peter missed it.


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#189 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Michelle » 14 Feb 2018 22:01

Pote Snitkin wrote:
14 Feb 2018 21:16
Pote you flowery moron, there is a particular significance regarding defaulted fines, when the defendant is under the age of 18, dandy head.
I've sanitised his potty mouth for the benefit of any ladies present.

So let's hear from the learned chimp.
Thank you, flower. :P

Is that what's being posted on CAG these days? :? You go away for a few weeks, next thing you know, the whole place turns into a zoo! :o :shock:
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#190 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 14 Feb 2018 22:29

Schedule 12 wrote:
14 Feb 2018 22:00
Peter Bardsley is on top form today.
If you cannot pay a fine the options are for the bailiff to apply to the court for further action to be taken, this would be facilitated by a means test.
Wrong. The CPR's don't provide for bailiffs to apply for further action let alone a means test.
You can always tell when it's him, the copy and paste is a mess and the reference is irrelevant.
(2)
A warrant of commitment may be issued as aforesaid either—
(a)
where it appears on the return to a [F3warrant of control] that the money and goods of the defaulter are insufficient to [F4pay the amount outstanding, as defined by paragraph 50(3) of Schedule 12 to the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007] ; or
(b)
instead of a [F5warrant of control] .

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#191 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 15 Feb 2018 09:15

Bless:
The £250 they "tried to add" was passed on eventually to B and s where it accumulated the second lot of enforcement fees.
He thinks that B&S can (or would) enforce for Equita's fees.

What a prat?

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#192 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 15 Feb 2018 09:21

2nd Feb:
Well firstly you need to clarify why the fees are £310. If they are only now sending you a letter you are still at compliance stage and the fee due to the bailiff should therefore only be £75, the other £235 should only be due after the bailiff calls on the 7th.

Today:
The £250 they "tried to add" was passed on eventually to B and s where it accumulated the second lot of enforcement fees.
Well is the £235 payable or not? Make your mind up.

Talk about conflicting advice. The shifter shifts as much with debtors as he does with us. :lol:

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#193 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 15 Feb 2018 09:32

OMG:
Indeed however, if the bailiff returns the warrant with a sum remaining the court may commence committal proceedings in any case, in which case the mans test will be a prerequisite. (this has nothing to do with any application to the bailiff of course).

If this happens fees will remain and be recoverable under committal rules.

It also appears to me that the search mentioned will be under section 80 of the MCA which also covers arrest.

I think it has t be remembered that coiurt bailiffs can do much more than just use schedule 12
Has he just been reading the MCA recently? he seems to be obsessed by it all of a sudden, quoting it at every chance. I read his drivel last night about the bailiff applying for a means test. I wondered if Harding would correct him (and doubted that she would). This morning Harding has indeed corrected him so he's come out with the above nonsense.

Ironically, when somebody else mentioned getting the debt returned to the court recently, Harding, in all her evil splendor, stated that we couldn't do this as the courts wouldn't be able to cope with all of the returned cases.

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#194 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 15 Feb 2018 11:49

Still no evidence of those OOTs. Funny that, ain't it?

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