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#71 Re: Paid fine online

Post by GDB » 16 Mar 2017 14:46

Yes all sorted....exactly paid your dues.

It was a friend of mine...Bailiffs were like thugs.

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#72 Re: Paid fine online

Post by GDB » 16 Mar 2017 14:46

Yes all sorted....exactly paid your dues.

It was a friend of mine...Bailiffs were like thugs.

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#73 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 16 Mar 2017 17:02

Just put my weight behind Bailiffreform, the system is due for its three year review. So many stories, all very similar, and yet still the revised rules have made very little difference. I hadn't realised how bad things are.
My problems seem very small compared to some.
But even if we have a little success, it will be worth it.

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#74 Re: Paid fine online

Post by GDB » 16 Mar 2017 17:10

You are not alone, regardless of the size of debt or fine - people suffer at the hands of bailiffs and companies.

Some know how to stand their ground, others need a little help and a push in the right direction.

Where bailiffs are concerned, knowledge is power - and they do not like forums like this who put people in a strong position to fight back.

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#75 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 16 Mar 2017 17:21

I've found that out, think when Jason used the EAs full proper name, that threw him. He wasn't expecting it, it meant someone had legal knowledge, and it wasn't me.
He wasn't prepared for me to seek professional advice.

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#76 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 17 Mar 2017 12:45

Hello all, well had a very I interesting conversation with a retired judge last night ( friend of a friend etc ) any how, he wasn't a bit surprised about my situation. And he wasn't surprised or shocked about court staff giving misleading and confusing information.
In the 30 years or so he was residing, never has he ever known fines to be given to private firms.
The fact that fines paid belong to the treasury, it's public money, which goes back into the system. If it wasn't the case, the who MOJ would be bankrupt and public services would suffer.
He said court staff aren't trained in legal affairs, and he wishes they were.
Nor are the Enforcement Companies, they like to think they but they know very little.
They confuse law and legislation, and chose to twist the facts. He said, in 2014 only a few things changed with regard to how EAs can do business.
The fact of the matter is the law wasn't changed as this would mean a long process of back and forth.
He suggested I as the court for a "resolution " he also said I have every right to ask where the payment is.
With regards to Marstons he said I could call their bluff, write a polite letter ( get it recorded) and tell them that after careful consideration, I refuse to pay the fee's you believe I owe. Ask for it to be sent back to the court , ( he said this won't happen, as the fine has been settled) and that you want your day in court.
Then ask, if you still insist on charging fees for a job you haven'the done, then I'll see you in court.
He's hoping that this year, a MOJ will look again at making EAs Public, so that tougher regulation is put in place, to stop the rogue trading, and have a fairer system.
He's glad he's not residing now, and enjoying his retirement.
I won't name him, as he was doing it as a favour, but he opened my eyes to how the system works. And pointed out that I have rights, regardless of what anyone says. Legislation is put in place to protect as well as enforce.

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#77 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 12:48

Just reading through some of the other posts on the site, and wow. Most of the advice is constructive and excellent.
But then you get , really rude and unhelpful advice, from people who, and forgive me for saying, seem to be on the side of the EAs and their companies .
It's like they are deliberately trolling. It's no wonder people are confused.
The advice I have been given on here has been great.
And makes perfect sense. And in black and white.
Are their people from other sites, deliberately contradicting whats getting said ? If so that's a poor show.
Surely these sites are here to help and guide people.
Not to break the law or to avoid paying, but to stop the unnecessary bullying, and intimidation by Enforcement Companies who are not properly regulated, and seem to think the law doesn't apply to them.
Ive seen other sites, and their advice is always "pay the fees " accept the bad behaviour, and the bullying will stop !

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#78 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Amy » 20 Mar 2017 13:18

I do try and keep the rabble out; if I find them, I ban them, but yes, they are some who are on the side of the bailiff and they really do push to have the bailiff fees paid.

Paying the bailiff fees is fine, but only if they are legitimately owed.

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#79 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 13:23

The information you see originates from a certain activist and campaigner who is out to disrupt our work.

http://www.dealingwithbailiffs.co.uk/activists.html

The activist also propagates misinformation about enforcement regulations and present it as fact. The "pay the fees" is a popular one. Also, seizing vehicles that are on hire purchase is a hot topic.

Fortunately, the general public is capable of deciding whose advice can be trusted.
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#80 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 13:44

Well from what I've read your not all bad. I believe Jason you recently won a court case regarding clamping etc. But I haven't seen one ounce of evidence from the other sites, or blogs about positive outcomes. They seem to be obsessed with defaiming and discrediting what this site is all about.
Even claiming your all the same person but using different names 😁
And that not one person giving advice is legally knowledgeable.

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#81 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 13:57

That would make sence6niw. Before I found your forum, I we think on Bailiff Advice Online, just as I did with yourself with regard to my issue. Any who, I got a message back saying that as my question was important and needs clarity would i please message back with a suitable mobile number and a time so that they could deal with my squeeze.
Anyway I done that, expecting a call at 4pm as I asked, instead I got a call from a "debt management " firm. No contact from the forum at all.
It was someone called "Shirley "

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#82 Re: Paid fine online

Post by GDB » 20 Mar 2017 13:59

You will give Jason a smile.

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#83 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 14:01

Apologies for the last post, my tablet has gone into to overdrive with the spell check, but you get the gist lol

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#84 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 14:05

GDB wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 13:59
You will give Jason a smile.
I hope so, he made me feel at ease when we spoke, lovely man ☺

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#85 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 14:06

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 13:44
Well from what I've read your not all bad. I believe Jason you recently won a court case regarding clamping etc. But I haven't seen one ounce of evidence from the other sites, or blogs about positive outcomes. They seem to be obsessed with defaiming and discrediting what this site is all about.
Even claiming your all the same person but using different names 😁
And that not one person giving advice is legally knowledgeable.
The activists in question share over 85 names between them.

I'm not sure what you mean by "win a court case". I've done a raft of injunctions on bailiffs clamping hire purchase cars. The clamp is removed. The bailiff company attends a costs hearing.

Bailiffs try to defeat the operation of paragraphs 10 and 51 of Schedule 12 of the TCEA 2007. A low ranking district judge might be naive, but it doesn’t work with a senior judge.

A hire purchaser that "allows" his vehicle to be seized is in breach of the hire purchase contract. To dispose of any question the hirer "allowed" the vehicle to be seized, he must injunct. It doesn't matter if the application is successful. Its indemnifies the hire purchaser of breach of hire purchase contract. If the lender does not return the vehicle when someone applies for a V5 from DVLA, the hirer can sue for damages including the replacement cost of the car.

This has upset bailiff companies because they target debtors cars. If it on finance, the car cannot be taken. I brought the original claim for a client, and this is why bailiff companies try to discredit me. They risked tens of thousands in costs for what was otherwise, a Β£60 parking ticket. Courts cannot go behind the law just because someone didn't pay his ticket.
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#86 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 14:13

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 13:57

It was someone called "Shirley "
That would be Shirley Herbert. Her school nickname was "Herbie".
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#87 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 14:14

I've learnt so much, and looking through your activist info page, I can see why they're miffed at you. Maybe as a sideline it's them feeding Donold Trump fake news, because some of their claims are a little far fetched πŸ˜€

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#88 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 14:48

With regards to " BAILIFFADVICEONLINE" I went to them first before I found your site.
I posted a question to them by personal online form.
Asking about my issue. I received an email back telling me someone would respond in 24 hrs.
About 4 hours later I received an email regarding my query and was asked to email back with my mobile and a suitable time for someone to call.
I asked to be called about 4pm.
I received a call from what it appears, to be a collection agency.
I emailed back for a response but there was none.
Seems to much of a coincidence,.
After some research, I may have been mislead on that particular site helping.

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#89 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Pote Snitkin » 20 Mar 2017 15:12

Amy wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 13:18
I do try and keep the rabble out
You let me stay though. :mrgreen:
That would be Shirley Herbert. Her school nickname was "Herbie".
So she's now gone the whole hog and using a fake first and surname? Sheila Harding, you are a naughty old biddy. Shirley Herbert..... I ask you.
On 29/07/17, Compo said "If you are interested I actually typed the word label. My spell checker interpreted it as liable" Discuss.

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#90 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Amy » 20 Mar 2017 15:14

Pote Snitkin wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 15:12
Amy wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 13:18
I do try and keep the rabble out
You let me stay though. :mrgreen:
For my sins, yes I did...

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#91 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Amy » 20 Mar 2017 15:14

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 14:48
I received a call from what it appears, to be a collection agency.
A collection agency? How do you mean?

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#92 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 15:24

Debt collection, I asked for help, gave my mobile, got a call from a debt agency.
Never ever had a phone call from her (Shirley). And haven't replied to any emails I've sent either.
No direct proof but funny non the less.

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#93 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 15:41

Shirley - not her real name - works in tracing missing debtors for bailiff companies. Her website bailiffadviceonline.co.uk is a front pretending to offer help for people with bailiff problems. She passes names on to bailiff companies.

She is angry because I set up DWB and took away all her internet traffic. She then paid top money to an SEO company to run promotional campaigns to uplift search rank. SEO is nothing to do with search rank. It's making a website search friendly.

Then, she recruited an activist to set up a website to defame me by saying things like I cost a client Β£4000 costs and my advice is wrong. One of her activists using a false name Michael Withers, emailed a client of mine, yesterday (Sunday) asking her to visit their website.
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#94 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Pote Snitkin » 20 Mar 2017 15:41

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 14:48
With regards to " BAILIFFADVICEONLINE" I went to them first before I found your site.
I posted a question to them by personal online form.
Asking about my issue. I received an email back telling me someone would respond in 24 hrs.
About 4 hours later I received an email regarding my query and was asked to email back with my mobile and a suitable time for someone to call.
I asked to be called about 4pm.
I received a call from what it appears, to be a collection agency.
I emailed back for a response but there was none.
Seems to much of a coincidence,.
After some research, I may have been mislead on that particular site helping.
Could you send us a copy of that email? Should be interesting.
On 29/07/17, Compo said "If you are interested I actually typed the word label. My spell checker interpreted it as liable" Discuss.

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#95 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 15:42

In members.

She actually calls herself Shirley!
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#96 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 15:51

Jason has a copy, my tablet is playing up , he could post for me ☺

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#97 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Pote Snitkin » 20 Mar 2017 16:00

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 15:51
Jason has a copy, my tablet is playing up , he could post for me ☺
Go for it Jason.
On 29/07/17, Compo said "If you are interested I actually typed the word label. My spell checker interpreted it as liable" Discuss.

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#98 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 16:05

Pote Snitkin wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 16:00
Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 15:51
Jason has a copy, my tablet is playing up , he could post for me ☺
Go for it Jason.
I like you, your a reble 😁😁

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Post by Pote Snitkin » 20 Mar 2017 16:10

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I like you, your a reble 😁😁
[/quote]

My wife often tells me I'm revolting....
On 29/07/17, Compo said "If you are interested I actually typed the word label. My spell checker interpreted it as liable" Discuss.

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#100 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 16:18

A "Revolting Rebel " sounds like a Roald Dahl character ☺

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Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 16:26

You are the latest of a long line of unhappy customers from bailiffadviceonline.co.uk.

Here is a list of others who have taken to social networking and voiced their discontent. She then plays the victim



http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?t=11184

https://allnightsblog.wordpress.com/tag/bailiff-scam/

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/v ... 70#p345414 ("pepsie" is Susan Oddy on the activist's page).

http://asaintcalledallnights.blogspot.c ... t-one.html
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#102 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 17:00

She seems quite obsessed with this forum, to dedicate so much time to discredit people is madness.

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#103 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 17:09

So who are "bailiffhelpforumwrongain" I assume one of the nasties we've been talking about.

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#104 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Twixi » 20 Mar 2017 17:13

Don't worry, I've seen Sheila's name on it, says it all really. Far too much time on her hands.

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#105 Re: Paid fine online

Post by Schedule 12 » 20 Mar 2017 19:12

Twixi wrote: ↑
20 Mar 2017 17:09
So who are "bailiffhelpforumwrongain" I assume one of the nasties we've been talking about.
We don't officially know but its previous domain name is this:
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