DWP Direct Earnings Attachment (DEA) for £113.71 from 1984!

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#1 DWP Direct Earnings Attachment (DEA) for £113.71 from 1984!

Post by colin11 » 27 Jul 2017 18:32

I have had money taken back from 33 years ago

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Post by Amy » 27 Jul 2017 21:56

colin11 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 18:32
I have had money taken back from 33 years ago
Really? What for?

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#3 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by JimUk1 » 27 Jul 2017 22:00

colin11 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 18:32
I have had money taken back from 33 years ago
Just when I thought the night couldn't get any better :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is that your YT channel Colin?
Dodgeball: As the discerning viewer will realise , I was aware of the mistake in the reply when I posted it

:lol: Of course you were Dodgeball - It was purely coincidence that you only mentioned it after it had been pointed out to you on here.

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#4 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by Schedule 12 » 27 Jul 2017 22:06

colin11 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 18:32
I have had money taken back from 33 years ago
So were some empty crisp packets. Jon, your Youtube channel needs your attention.
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#5 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by JimUk1 » 27 Jul 2017 22:17

Jason.

For the 333rd time, Colin is Colin - He is not Jon

Comprehendo?
Dodgeball: As the discerning viewer will realise , I was aware of the mistake in the reply when I posted it

:lol: Of course you were Dodgeball - It was purely coincidence that you only mentioned it after it had been pointed out to you on here.

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#6 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by Amy » 27 Jul 2017 22:19

JimUk1 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 22:17
Jason.

For the 333rd time, Colin is Colin - He is not Jon

Comprehendo?
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#7 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by colin11 » 28 Jul 2017 11:31

Who is Jon ?

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#8 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by colin11 » 28 Jul 2017 11:35

Amy wrote:
27 Jul 2017 21:56
colin11 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 18:32
I have had money taken back from 33 years ago
Really? What for?
I have no idea, The DWP sent me a letter saying i owed £13.71, I asked them what it was for, They said it was from 1984, They had no idea why i owed it, Just that i did

You cant stop it, They just take it, I haven't claimed a single benefit in over 30 years

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Post by Schedule 12 » 28 Jul 2017 11:43

I've sent you a PM.
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#10 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by colin11 » 28 Jul 2017 11:51

Oh i see, I think on one post Jason had checked me out and knew where i worked

So i looked him up, I came across the 2 videos and wanted to back them up before i added them to the thread

Not too sure how to delete it

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#11 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by colin11 » 28 Jul 2017 12:00

Schedule 12 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:43
I've sent you a PM.
I have no PM rights to reply

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#12 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by Amy » 28 Jul 2017 13:38

Sorry, I'll fix that for you.

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#13 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by Pote Snitkin » 28 Jul 2017 13:48

colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:51
Oh i see, I think on one post Jason had checked me out and knew where i worked

So i looked him up, I came across the 2 videos and wanted to back them up before i added them to the thread
And titled them 'Jason Bennison's House'.
On 29/07/17, Compo said "If you are interested I actually typed the word label. My spell checker interpreted it as liable" Discuss.

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#14 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by Michelle » 28 Jul 2017 13:52

colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:31
Who is Jon ?
Jon is someone I know who used to work for a company in the same group of companies as your employer, hence the confusion. However, that was over 6 years ago.
colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:35
Amy wrote:
27 Jul 2017 21:56
colin11 wrote:
27 Jul 2017 18:32
I have had money taken back from 33 years ago
Really? What for?
I have no idea, The DWP sent me a letter saying i owed £13.71, I asked them what it was for, They said it was from 1984, They had no idea why i owed it, Just that i did

You cant stop it, They just take it, I haven't claimed a single benefit in over 30 years
A few years ago, the DWP introduced Direct Earnings Attachment to recover benefit overpayments. Did you receive any correspondence from them?

If you sent them a SAR, I'm sure they'd come back saying they've got no data (they wouldn't if you haven't made any claims) and any data wouldn't go as far back as 1984 anyway, which would then raise the question as to how they could possibly have known that you owed them that money when they have no data and no evidence to prove the debt. Having said that, if all they took was £13.71, would it be worth the trouble (and the cost, at it could cost you as much to send a SAR recorded delivery), just to make a point?
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#15 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £13.71 from 1984!

Post by Michelle » 28 Jul 2017 14:18

Posts split to new thread as the other one was about council tax.
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#16 Re: Council Tax from 12 years ago

Post by colin11 » 29 Jul 2017 11:57

Michelle wrote:
28 Jul 2017 13:52
colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:31
Who is Jon ?
Jon is someone I know who used to work for a company in the same group of companies as your employer, hence the confusion. However, that was over 6 years ago.
colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:35
Amy wrote:
27 Jul 2017 21:56


Really? What for?
I have no idea, The DWP sent me a letter saying i owed £13.71, I asked them what it was for, They said it was from 1984, They had no idea why i owed it, Just that i did

You cant stop it, They just take it, I haven't claimed a single benefit in over 30 years
A few years ago, the DWP introduced Direct Earnings Attachment to recover benefit overpayments. Did you receive any correspondence from them?

If you sent them a SAR, I'm sure they'd come back saying they've got no data (they wouldn't if you haven't made any claims) and any data wouldn't go as far back as 1984 anyway, which would then raise the question as to how they could possibly have known that you owed them that money when they have no data and no evidence to prove the debt. Having said that, if all they took was £13.71, would it be worth the trouble (and the cost, at it could cost you as much to send a SAR recorded delivery), just to make a point?


No it was £113.71 not a great amount of money

At no time in the last 33 years have they ever written to me, I have always been find able and have had the same job for the last 30 years

It wasn't enough to go over 1 weeks wages so went instantly and was done, Not really sure there is anything i can do about it now

When i rang them they said its from 1984 and i must of claimed and worked at the same time, I said that never happened, They said we don't know then

I guess you live and you learn

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#17 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £13.71 from 1984!

Post by Michelle » 29 Jul 2017 12:12

You must have left out the 1:
colin11 wrote:
28 Jul 2017 11:35
I have no idea, The DWP sent me a letter saying i owed £13.71, I asked them what it was for, They said it was from 1984, They had no idea why i owed it, Just that i did

You cant stop it, They just take it, I haven't claimed a single benefit in over 30 years
It's not a lot but £100 more than what we thought it was, in which case I would be writing to them, asking for proof of the debt. The onus is on THEM to prove that you owe this money, not on you to prove that you don't. It's disgraceful. :evil:

A letter would be a good start and wouldn't cost as much as a SAR, and it could be followed by a formal complaint if they don't refund the money. As a matter of principle, I wouldn't let this one go.
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#18 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £113.71 from 1984!

Post by Michelle » 29 Jul 2017 12:13

Have edited your first post to change the thread title to a more realistic figure. :geek:
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#19 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £113.71 from 1984!

Post by colin11 » 29 Jul 2017 12:22

They don't seem to be interested now they have the money

Is it worth spending another £10 for a SAR ?

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#20 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £113.71 from 1984!

Post by Michelle » 29 Jul 2017 12:55

colin11 wrote:
29 Jul 2017 12:22
They don't seem to be interested now they have the money

Is it worth spending another £10 for a SAR ?
Of course they are not interested, but YOU should be!

I'm 99.999% sure the SAR wouldn't show any data, but that same fact could be used to argue that, in the absence of data, how the heck did they come up with the idea that you owed them money from decades ago?

As with every process, you need to start by complaining to the people who made the deductions, if you get no joy, you can email Noel.Shanahan8@dwp.gsi.gov.uk. You'll find the postal address here: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... Parker.pdf :geek:
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#21 Re: DWP sent me a letter saying I owed £113.71 from 1984!

Post by Schedule 12 » 29 Jul 2017 13:30

colin11 wrote:
29 Jul 2017 12:22
They don't seem to be interested now they have the money

Is it worth spending another £10 for a SAR ?
A SAR is only a request for personal data they hold on you.

Start a Formal Complaint. Say what's wrong, say them how much you what them to pay and why. Set a deadline, and include your bank details for them to pay.

If no refund, then open a small claim track against "The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions", Caxton House, Tothill Street, London, SW1H 9NA. When you allocate the claim to the small claims track, file and serve your legal arguments statement.
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#22 Re: DWP Direct Earnings Attachment (DEA) for £113.71 from 1984!

Post by colin11 » 29 Jul 2017 13:40

I will look into those avenues, Thank you

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