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water rates

Post by carl » 17 Nov 2015 18:20

hi just wondering what sort of bailiff would come for water rates and what would his powers be. just had a card posted from orbit debt collections contact them in the next 24 to avoid county court claim thanks

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Post by Schedule 12 » 17 Nov 2015 19:57

If the debt is more than £600, it will be a High Court Enforcement Officer. Otherwise a common debt collector.

High Court officers are very big on high fees, usually inventive ones.
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Post by carl » 17 Nov 2015 20:24

dont no how much it is waiting for orbit ringing back if it got to bailiff stage can they use lock smiths like court fines bailiffs?????

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Post by Schedule 12 » 17 Nov 2015 20:40

Court fines bailiffs are losing money hand over fist using locksmiths. Its guaranteed months of protracted litigation. When the costs are totted up and thrown at the guilty party, the bailiff company's £310 bounty becomes an £8K bill. Breaking into homes for unpaid court fine fees is becoming a very risky business for bailiff companies. Even police forces are abandoning it because its cripplingly expensive having IPCC making investigation after investigation. HM Court service is looking at bank arrestment, deduction from benefits and employment. There is no fees to pay and the defendant is protected from the poverty threshold. HCEO is better for biz 2 biz debt recovery.
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Post by carl » 18 Nov 2015 07:47

they can walk into an unlocked property not use force

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Post by Schedule 12 » 18 Nov 2015 21:35

Yes. If the key is in the lock, they can open the door using the key. Ryan v Shilcock [1851] 7 Exch 72

Bailiffs cannot reach through a cat flap and turn the key in lock inside of the door. Ryan v Shilcock [1851] 7 Exch 72

If they find a key under a mat, they cannot enter by unlocking the door using the key. Miller v Curry [1893], Welch v Krakovsky [1919]
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Post by Munkeybouy » 27 Nov 2015 01:08

When you say key is in the lock do you mean on the inside or he outside

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Post by Schedule 12 » 29 Nov 2015 20:49

Outside.

The bailiff cannot reach through a hole, or a cat-flap and use the key inside the door. Ryan v Shilcock [1851] 7 Exch 72
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