Council Tax Calculation

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#1 Council Tax Calculation

Post by Hopeless » 03 Dec 2015 19:49

I've not been able to find definitive info on this. Any info most appreciated.

Consider a council tax annual rate of £1k. There's a credit balance from the previous year. For ease of calculation, let's say £500.

How is council tax for the new year calculated? Is it:

--£1k means 10 instalments of £100, with the first 5 instalments considered paid?
--£1k minus £500, so £500 spread over the year, i.e. 10 installments of £50?

Also, what right does a council have to hold on to CT overpayments and not return it to the person in question?

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#2 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Schedule 12 » 03 Dec 2015 21:23

Not really a questions about bailiffs.
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#3 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Hopeless » 04 Dec 2015 04:38

It's about CT, which may lead to bailiffs.

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#4 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Andy » 04 Dec 2015 14:48

This forum is for dealing with bailiffs, not things that may lead to bailiffs.
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#5 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Schedule 12 » 04 Dec 2015 14:58

Andy is right, we are set up to deal with bailiffs. We are not authorised to give debt counselling advice. That is a regulated activity under section 21(1) of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which says:

  • Businesses needing a licence.

    (1)Subject to this section, a licence is required to carry on a consumer credit business or [F1a consumer hire business or an ancillary credit business] .

    (2)A local authority does not need a licence to carry on a business.

    (3)A body corporate empowered by a public general Act naming it to carry on a business does not need a licence to do so.


Section 39(1) of the Act makes it an offence, which says,

  • (1)A person who engages in any activities for which a licence is required when he is not a licensee under a licence covering those activities commits an offence.

    (2)A licensee under a standard licence who carries on business under a name not specified in the licence commits an offence.

    (3)A person who fails to give the [F1OFT] or a licensee notice under section 36 within the period required commits an offence.


Ancilliary Credit Business is -> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/39/section/145

CAG and Legal Beagles forums can carry on giving debt advice. Its not happening here.
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#6 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Hopeless » 04 Dec 2015 19:29

OK then. I rephrase.

You have CT of £1k. Credit from previous year is £500. Council calculates as 10 payments of £50. You were expecting 5 months where CT payment of £100 not needed. 2nd month of this new tax year, council obtains LO.

Is this acceptable? Back to the original question. How is a CT credit from previous year dealt with?

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#7 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Andy » 04 Dec 2015 20:20

You're still not getting it are you?

It has nothing to do with bailiffs. We're here to help people who have fallen foul to bailiffs and their underhand tactics. We're not here to play games in your imaginary scenarios.
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#8 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Pote Snitkin » 04 Dec 2015 21:38

For the sake of peace, if you stay in the same local authority, overpayments are dealt with via a credit. If you want to pay the £500 over 5 months that is up to you.

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#9 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Hopeless » 05 Dec 2015 08:48

Andy wrote:You're still not getting it are you?

It has nothing to do with bailiffs. We're here to help people who have fallen foul to bailiffs and their underhand tactics. We're not here to play games in your imaginary scenarios.

Andy,

There is nothing imaginary about this. This is exactly what happened in 2014. Went from credit in April 2014 to LO in June 2014. I was merely asking if anyone knew how CT is calculated when there is a credit balance from the previous year. Nothing to do with debt. I asked because, as mentioned in the first post, I could not find anything definitive on this.

It's perfect. The council have referred back to 2013. I have this in writing.

As mentioned, I am deranged :lol:

The best way to predict the future is to create and dictate it :lol:

On 14 December, I will even tell the court that I will not pay a cent in CT and I am bound by law not to!

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#10 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Andy » 05 Dec 2015 09:17

I will even tell the court that I will not pay a cent in CT and I am bound by law not to!
This is exactly the sort of nonsense that will see you made an example of by the court. You cannot just claim the law doesn't apply to you. How on earth are you ever going to convince a magistrate that the law is not applicable to you?

That is the stupidest thing anyone has ever said.
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#11 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by Schedule 12 » 05 Dec 2015 10:06

Cam. You got the Magistrates back up at Chippenham. You really need to take advice.
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#12 Re: Council Tax Calculation

Post by monkeynuts » 05 Dec 2015 13:30

Locking this thread as its not relevant to the forum.
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