Sheila Harding Lying Again

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#71 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 05 Jan 2018 22:06

The chimp was always the master of the last word. That's why so many threads he was involved in were either locked or descended into irrelevant drivel. I've lost count of the number of "may" means "may not" type of threads the clown was involved in. It was like debating with a 10 year old, you might just as well not bother.

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#72 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Schedule 12 » 06 Jan 2018 12:15

I've just looked over the CAG board, and it has lost its focus through bad management.

The decision to align with a bailiff company caused it to be struck off the BBC because it was not impartial to consumer advice. That was the biggest mistake, and I think Marston's agenda is to take it out of circulation, and the CAG board fell for it.

Since Sheila complained to the BBC and I handed over her file, she got herself investigated and linked to CAG. I cannot see any way the CAG board can regenerate a new focus and move forward. It has stagnated with old historic threads which have no relevance to todays consumer advice. Its hosting bill must absorb any donations made, or it is being subsidised, but there is no evidence of a business model supporting it.
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#73 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 10 Jan 2018 10:30

More misinformation from Harding I'm afraid:

OP:
He has said that if he cant get in or seize goods then we will be getting a commital referral tomorrow

Harding:
What you were told is not right at all

It actually is right. A ploy that bailiff companies often use when running out of options is to "scare" the debtor by stating that they will be referring the case back to the council with a recommendation that committal proceedings are started. Whilst the recommendation from a bailiff company is not worth the paper that it is printed on and a council will not act on it, the threat often has the desired effect, as demonstrated in the case that Harding was commenting on.

A mixture of Harding's stupidity and lack of experience in advising on these matters led her to give the wrong and inaccurate information.

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#74 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 10 Jan 2018 12:08

I disagree slightly there JTB. Although proceedings can be bought it's not for the EA to make any referral. It is, as you say, scare tactics and a complaint should be made. What's more disgraceful is Sheila's usual ploy of making others wait for her sage advice:
I will respond in more detail later this evening.
Two days on and still nothing more from her, although she seems to have the time to post on her blog. It's the second time she's done that in the past few days, adding to the hundreds of times she's done it over the years.

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#75 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 10 Jan 2018 12:39

The referral is the bailiff referring back to the council. It's worthless but has the desired effect of scaremongering. Had Harding any genuine experience, she would have known this. Several bailiff companies use this tactic. Indeed, Rossendales refer to it as part of their "two letter process "

What was Harding getting her grubby knickers in a twist about this time? The fact that the board was down. She must be devastated to see it back up again. Hopefully her blood pressure stepped up a few notches in the process.

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#76 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 10 Jan 2018 13:16

Yep - she was suffering from an acute case of the vapours at the thought that something tragic had happened and the servers had kicked these boards into touch. To his credit, only the newsagent realised why we were missing for a while.

I notice Mr Shifter has resurfaced and he learnt a new word. Used it in the wrong context mind, but the effort was there.

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#77 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 10 Jan 2018 13:31

Here's to a new batch of "on block" moments for 2018.

I wonder if he'll suggest that Rundles were being "coercive" in their threats of committal? or whether he'll maintain his stance that suggestions of committal being "coercive" are fmotl nonsense? :lol:

I eagerly await the next round of his buffoonery but suspect we'll have to wait until he's finished treating Digital_2012 like a criminal first.

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#78 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 16 Jan 2018 15:48

Oh dear, oh dear..... Sheila's defending Martson's again. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/f ... wing)-nbsp

The OP says the bailiff's pushed him out of the doorway plus elbowed his face whilst enforcing for some parking tickets against his mum. They 'noticed' on their ipad that the OP also had some outstanding tickets, so decided to enforce for those instead. The OP refused entry, so they barged past. Sheila's thoughts?
you should be aware that an enforcement agent does indeed have the right to use 'force' to gain entry into the property. This is not the case though with council tax arrears of parking debts.
The 'right' to force entry does not however extend to physically forcing past anyone, barging them out the way though, does it Sheila dear? Why have you conveniently forgotten that?

Why not ask if the OP had received any NOE regarding his parking tickets? If not then the bailiff should not be enforcing at that time. Come on someone, highlight her errors.

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#79 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 18:00

The case is very serious and the responses by the usual idiots very worrying.

There has clearly been some recognition of wrongdoing by Marston as they have offered a payment of "goodwill". These offers are very rare. Amazingly, not one person has urged the OP to seek a copy of the footage taken. Until the OP has footage, it is wrong to determine what the next step will be. As a Marston manager stated in an email to his bailiffs:
you MUST use your cameras whilst enforcing, the next person who gets a complaint lodged against them and has no camera footage will face disciplinary action. Trying to defend you all against complaints without footage is difficult and embarrassing as the clients all know you wear bodycams.
If footage only begins halfway through the visit, answers need to be obtained as to why this happened. Furthermore, it needs to be established what the sums adjudged were and what fees were charged.

Harding, in her usual display of inability to read thought that the debts were for fines, despite the OP stating clearly that they were for parking tickets in post #1. Regardless of this, as Pote says, the use of force does not extend to barging past someone standing in the doorway. Harding then goes on to ask the shocking question as to why a single mother on benefits would not have paid a debt of £800. Does she not have an iota of common sense? How many people in that position have a spare £800 to hand?

The chimp then makes some crazy suggestion that an EAC 2 complaint should be addressed to the bailiff. I honestly thought that this buffoon had done the decent thing and popped his clogs but he has returned, posting the same brand of inaccurate nonsense as before. An EAC 2 complaint should obviously be addressed to the court that issued the bailiff's certificate, not the bailiff himself. Until footage has been obtained, a decision on how to proceed should not be made in any case.

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#80 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 18:55

think we have a number of different issues.

If you are considering taking an action against the individual bailiff who assaulted you then theEAC2 is the methods used. As this questions the right for the bailiff to hold a certificate. As a word of warning though you must be sure you can evidence your claims,as losing one could be expensive for you.
That's better chimp - Well done for reading this forum and acting on the correct information that we provide.

Your next step would be to urge the OP NOT to instigate an EAC2 complaint as this will be of no financial benefit to him/her. The OP needs to push for compo. Whether the £230 offered is reasonable is up to the OP. It appears that there are 2 tickets and 2 compliance fees. The enforcement fee has effectively been knocked off. What does the OP consider reasonable compo for being assaulted? It seems that no real damage was caused to the OP. The tickets needed to be paid so is it reasonable to just pay them plus the compliance fees? With the benefit of video evidence, you will be in a better position to assess the level of wrongdoing by the bailiff.

How about discovering when the NoE was sent and to what address?

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#81 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 20:06

OMG What planet is this lunatic on?
As part of your complaint you would need to provide evidence of any doctors report outlining the extent of your injuries.
So if the injuries aren't sufficient to warrant a doctors report, the bailiff keeps his certificate? What about the next time he forces his way in? Do we just leave it in the lap of the Gods that the injury is the same as last time? What about if the bailiff assaults a debtor by spitting at them? That requires no doctors report so is that acceptable.

Harding - You are a grade 1 idiot. For the benefit of these people who visit forums for help and guidance, can you please keep your big nose out of it. You are no more able to assist people with bailiff issues than you were able to build a successful company (hence the astonishing list of your failed attempts). Stop trying to be something that you are not.

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#82 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 16 Jan 2018 20:21

It's shocking ain't it? Marston's have acknowledged they were wrong, the police have acknowledged their officers were wrong and all she can waffle on about is paperwork that would've been sent.

The OP should just complain to the CEO of the council outlining the issues, request they obtain the camera footage and ask how they intend to rectify matters. Martson's will just give him the runaround.

Thing is, because Madame knows that we're watching and advising, she won't be able to bring herself to agree with anything we say.

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#83 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 20:36

In her latest post, she's explained that an EAC2 won't bring any financial redress. She has clearly posted this as a direct result of my post to the chimp; so she is acting on what we're saying.

I don't hold much hope of the NoE going to an incorrect address as the OP appealed the ticket earlier on in the process. The big issue is whether (s)he can get hold of footage from an incident that took place on November 1. Knowing Marstons, they will be keen to erase it at the earliest opportunity. Whether it was correct to do so whilst a complaint is/was on going is debatable.

A complaint needs to go into the CEO pronto. The moronic chimp is harping on about the correct procedure being to complain to Marstons first. Notwithstanding that it isn't the correct procedure and there is nothing stopping a debtor complaining to the principal from the outset, there has been a complaint to Marston already.

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#84 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 20:46

You have stated that the enforcement agent did not show you any 'paperwork' regarding the tickets. What paperwork are your referring to?
Why is she asking this?

the evil old hag knows full well that the bailiff wasn't required to show any paperwork. She just wants the satisfaction of telling her that.

What a vile creature this woman is. How can that question possibly advance the matter further or help the OP in any way?

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#85 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 16 Jan 2018 21:42

More pointless questions:
In your initial post you indicated that you had more than one parking debt. How much did you end up paying?
Notwithstanding that the OP said how much in post #1, what difference does it make?

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#86 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 21:43

And still they keep coming:

The Newsagent:
Doubts would be cast on the impartiality of witnesses who are also family members. Much better if they were completely independent. I would proceed with caution as you could expose yourself to costs being awarded against you.
Clive - There is a duty on the courts to look at complaints of this nature PRIOR to a court hearing. You are guilty of what you preach against, ie forming an opinion from what you read on the internet. Please try to understand that the only way a complainant can have costs ordered against them is if the complaint discloses no grounds AND is an abuse of the courts process. NOT because they failed to provide independent witnesses. Relying on posts from air heads such as Bardsley & Harding is entirely inappropriate. Any doubt and the matter will not proceed to a full hearing.

In your initial post you indicated that you had more than one parking debt. How much did you end up paying?
Again Harding demonstrates her inability to read. The OP clearly stated that the amount paid was around £800 which works out at £200 per ticket, £150 compliance and £235 visit fee. One of the most depressing things about the thread is the OP (who probably has English as a second language) has demonstrated a far greater ability to both read and write than Harding and the chimp. Our education system is an absolute joke.

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#87 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 22:57

:lol: The chimp's been reading too much misinformation that Harding has previously posted on the internet:

The Chimp:
Also please be advised that writing to the court in complaint will be considere as complaint complaint against the bailiff under EAC2
The CPR:
The complaint must be submitted to the County Court hearing centre at which the certificate was issued, using the relevant form prescribed in Practice Direction 4.
Let's just do away with all prescribed forms eh? According to the chimp, they are optional.

FAO Marc Gander: Do you now see what a shambles you have allowed your forum to become? All for what? For you to be able to earn a paltry living off it instead of working for a living? You have sold out the people you claim to help Gander - You are no better than morons like Bardsley & Harding.

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#88 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 16 Jan 2018 23:04

He's going by that perverse decision last year by some DJ who decided to ignore the protocols for his own convenience. Shouldn't have done it but the guy was a LIP and didn't know better - the DJ abused his position.

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#89 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 16 Jan 2018 23:07

John The Baptist wrote:
16 Jan 2018 22:57
FAO Marc Gander: Do you now see what a shambles you have allowed your forum to become? All for what? For you to be able to earn a paltry living off it instead of working for a living? You have sold out the people you claim to help Gander - You are no better than morons like Bardsley & Harding.
He doesn't give a shite any more mate - just look at his grinning mug.

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#90 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 23:11

He's going by what he's read on the internet (which was posted by Harding and was entirely inaccurate)

Oh the irony - A moron giving advice on an internet forum, based entirely on what the aforementioned moron has previously read on the internet. You couldn't make it up.

These idiots are no better than the fools who read about wet ink signatures online.

I have to say though, it's a great start to the new year. Only the chimp could return in such style. 2 pages and 25 posts yet we're still no nearer resolving the matter than when we were at post #1. Still, all hail the saving grace, Harding is waiting to pounce to tell the OP that the bailiff wasn't required to show paperwork.

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#91 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 16 Jan 2018 23:12

Pote Snitkin wrote:
16 Jan 2018 23:07
John The Baptist wrote:
16 Jan 2018 22:57
FAO Marc Gander: Do you now see what a shambles you have allowed your forum to become? All for what? For you to be able to earn a paltry living off it instead of working for a living? You have sold out the people you claim to help Gander - You are no better than morons like Bardsley & Harding.
He doesn't give a shite any more mate - just look at his grinning mug.
I agree - I still think that it should be pointed out though. The man is an appalling individual.

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#92 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Amy » 16 Jan 2018 23:54

Gander hasn’t given a shite since 2006.

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#93 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

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Not even 9am and he's off:
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#94 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 17 Jan 2018 09:52

Her paymasters have obviously been putting the pressure on.
Clearly, there would have been an argument at the door and a scuffle has broken out. Whether that constitutes 'assault' is something that would have to be decided by the courts. You have not indicated whether you had any injuries or that you had visited your GP. As there had been a 10 year old child present, there would be little to gain from seeking to view the body worn camera footage.
No Sheila, the OP said the bailiff pushed him out the way then elbowed his face. In the first instance the bailiff should not be using any physical force against a person to enter property. Why are you trying to defend them?

And what does a child being present have to do with not seeking to view the BWC footage? No-one has said the child was in view of the camera and in any case do you honestly think that a bailiff that's willing to barge past someone is going to care who is being filmed?

Notice how she's now admonishing the OP for not paying his PCN earlier? At the very least, I'd argue that all fees be returned to the OP, not the paltry £200 offered. That said, the OP could argue that Marston's seem to be increasing their goodwill payment in an effort to make him go away as they know they are on shaky ground.

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#95 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 10:01

She's now treating the OP like a criminal. The OP never stated that she had no intention of paying, only that £800 in one hit was too much. Harding previously accepted this and "fully understood".

There certainly seems to be a reluctance to share the video footage. I'm not sure whether it is Marstons claiming the 10 year old is a reason not to divulge it or whether it is Harding making it up as she goes along again. By this reasoning, a man could be murdered in cold blood but any footage should not be made available to the police because a 10 year old was captured in the footage.

The more I read, the more concerned I become about this incident.

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#96 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 10:28

Another weapon lands:
“You say assault, I say reasonable force... let’s call the whole thing off...”
Oh right. You've seen the footage then?

Just to remind everyone, CAG claim to exist to help people.

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Post by Pote Snitkin » 17 Jan 2018 10:49

John The Baptist wrote:
17 Jan 2018 10:28
Another weapon lands:
“You say assault, I say reasonable force... let’s call the whole thing off...”
Oh right. You've seen the footage then?

Just to remind everyone, CAG claim to exist to help people.
Another thick-skulled apologist. They must surely understand that 'reasonable force' does not include force against the person? Imagine that excuse in the dock:

"Mr Smith, I put it to you that you assaulted your wife by striking her with your elbow"

"No your Honour, I merely reasonably forced her"

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#98 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 17 Jan 2018 10:51

The Chimp seems to have joined the #MeToo campaign. That dirty Weinstein gets everywhere.

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#99 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

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Pote Snitkin wrote:
17 Jan 2018 10:51
The Chimp seems to have joined the #MeToo campaign. That dirty Weinstein gets everywhere.
Probably in support of Blackpool Bard

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#100 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 15:47

Just had a look at their forum for the first time. Jesus H Christ, what a crock of shite. I was expecting a good few slaggingg offs given my recent posts but there was nothing. I wish I hadn't bothered.

The boring old fools can't even provide entertainment when we look for it.

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#101 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 20:35

Dear oh dear:
The correct course of action would have been to address the problem when you first heard about it.
please furnish us with details that point us to this being the "correct course of action" chimp.....

There is no correct course of action you numpty and each matter is case specific.

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#102 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 21:12

Where did you get advice from that the penalty charge would supposedly get sent back to the council?

Also, who advised you to have no further contact (supposedly with the enforcement agent or company)?
Typical Harding - Not interested in the OP's plight and only concerned about where the original advice came from.

Well done Marc - Another satisfied customer awaits.

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#103 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 17 Jan 2018 22:00

She was hoping it was Jason.

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#104 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by John The Baptist » 17 Jan 2018 22:26

And now her size 16 knickers need changing again

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#105 Re: Sheila Harding Lying Again

Post by Pote Snitkin » 17 Jan 2018 22:56

I thought she'd gone up to an 18 at least? With the re-inforced gussets with extra absorbtion and teflon coating?

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